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研究生级TF迷论文:论雷霆舰队ARAMDA中的三只SEEKER[资料篇11.26更新2楼人物图、惊天雷闹翻天介绍翻译] [复制链接]

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X的,写死我了,我写我自己的毕业论文和找资料都还没这么认真呢!!占贴,写资料做翻译,喜欢的顶下,不知道A原来是红蜘蛛,闹翻天,和惊天雷都有的也来顶下~~
11.24更新游戏翻译和校对2处人物格言。谢谢D兄指教~~~~
11.25更新部分人物介绍和格言,谢谢飞鸟~
11.26更新2楼人物图,谢谢四大金刚~~闹翻天惊天雷翻译,谢谢D兄~~


原来!A里也是有三只SEEKER的!虽然,我们在动画漫画里都只是看到小红一个大显身手,但是,人物卡和玩具,还有MV,众多疑点都指向——对,传说中的A-SEEKER小队,哦!普神在上U球在下,亲爱的图图跟文文,上吧!!!!

以下图文统统来自:http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Armada_%28toyline%29#Decepticons

闹翻天(Skywarp):(***MIMI闲话:样子好可爱***)


格言:"I am going to cut *clap*clap* you up."(翻译:喀喳喀喳!!我要把你们全砍翻!)


11.26更新翻译:
翻译BY:Dezire(谢谢D兄~~)


介绍:Skywarp is a petty, immature prankster. And as luck would have it, he's a petty, immature prankster with the ability to warp place to place as he pleases and good aim. He uses his warping power as a toy. It is a tool for thuggery and practical jokes. However, he is also a dangerous combatant versed in an array of martial techniques. Proud of his excellent aim, Skywarp has named himself "Bulls-eye in the sky."
闹翻天是个相当不成熟的顽皮的家伙,而且不巧得很,一如他热衷的,他有那个能力四处惹祸把哪儿都闹得翻上天。他把自己闹腾的能力当 成玩具,用来行凶跟恶作剧。但他仍旧是个精通一系列战斗技巧的危险的战士。因为对自己四处惹祸的伟大目标感到骄傲,他把自己称做是 “天空中的靶心”。

Skywarp, being rather dim, requires the constant supervision of his cousin, Starscream, whom Skywarp despises. Skywarp is just smart enough to notice others' claims of nepotism. Some day, he hopes, he can make a name for himself, free from the influence of his famous relative.
很不幸地,闹翻天一直活在那个被他鄙视的堂兄红蜘蛛的阴影下。他常听到别人说他凭的是亲戚的关系。他希望有那么一天他能够不依靠他 那个有名的亲戚的影响干出些名堂。


玩具:(***MIMI闲话:天,这……玩具也居然有!?能凑A的SEEKER小队!??***)


引用网页:http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Skywarp_%28Armada%29

拍挡迷你金刚:Thunderclash(翻译:雷雨云) ****MIMI闲话:难道这个是惊惊送他的??***

A greasy, amoral smooth-talking weasel, Thunderclash has somehow managed to lie, cheat and swindle his way into a positon where many larger and more powerful Decepticons actually owe him... or at least fear that he may blackmail them, so they do what he wants. Utterly self-interested, Thunderclash doesn't do anything unless he can see a way to personally profit from it. Some say he started the rumors that his occasional partner Skywarp is only in the position he is thanks to a healthy dose of nepotism. Needless to say, Skywarp hates Thunderclash's guts, but can't do a whole lot about it... yet.

An alternate-universe incarnation of Thunderclash serves the will of Unicron via the herald Ramjet. This version of Thunderclash has no free will whatsoever, being a near-mindless thrall.

(翻译:待翻译……)

合体:
Skywarp w/ Thunderclash (Max-Con, 2003)
Available only with the Decepticon Skywarp, Thunderclash transforms into a Cybertronic gunship. His jet mode can be attached to the underside of Skywarp's jet-mode nosecone for storage, "launched" by pressing down on Skywarp's cockpit canopy.
This mold is also used by Processor, Saber, and Triac.

(翻译:待翻译……)

引用网页:http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Thunderclash_%28Armada%29

惊天雷:(Thundercracker)


格言:Say, haven't I seen you somewhere before? (翻译:嘿!我们以前在哪见过?)****MIMI闲话:够凶的啊,很显然,回答是还是不是,都会被砍…呵呵…呵呵 11.24:原来,应该是,对,以前千万别欠他什么,否则会被砍掉……***

介绍:
Thundercracker suffered from low self-esteem and longed for approval from authority figures to validate his existence. He was willing to work as hard as necessary to gain attention and praise from Megatron, but when all his efforts were ignored or taken for granted, he grew frustrated. Thundercracker felt the need to engage in ever more risky and reckless behavior in an attempt to gain Megatron's notice. Many predicted this would lead to his destruction.
惊天雷活得很没自尊,长久以来都渴望着权威人物对他的认同。他乐于拼命干活以期得到威震天的赏识,但当他所有的努力都被忽视或是被视为理所当然,他变得很失落。惊天雷觉得需要通过一些更加孤注一掷、不顾一切的行为来吸引威震天的注意。很多东西都预示着这将把他带向毁灭。

When next we see Thundercracker it is over ten years later, loyally serving under Starscream during the search for the Cyber Planet Keys. In the intervening years he became something of a jokester and goofball. This has often gained him the attention that he craves. Though frequently, especially when Megatron is the brunt of the joke, it is far from positive attention. Thundercracker doesn't seem mature enough to tell the difference, but he does know when to get the smelt out of Decepticon HQ before Megatron looks for someone to pummel.
我们再次见到惊天雷,已是十年之后,那时他正在红蜘蛛手下衷心工作,搜索着the Cyber Planet Keys(能量芯片??)。其间多年,他变成了一个乱开玩笑的怪人。这让他得到了他渴求的注意。尽管往往得到的是更差的印象,尤其是在他开威震天玩笑的时候。惊天雷并未理智到可以区分这其中的区别,但他晓得何时溜之大吉,在威震天想找个人揍一通之前逃出霸天虎的总部。

(Note: the Dreamwave More Than Meets The Eye bio compilation for the Armada series portrays Thundercracker very differently, as a former Decepticon who left the army centuries ago. However, this does not seem to mesh with the glimpses of unreleased Energon comic issues where Thundercracker, along with several other Armada-series characters, show up in the present day.)
另外,DW漫画和动画设定很不同(此断待译)

11.26更新翻译:
翻译BY:Dezire(谢谢D兄~~)



(翻译:待翻译……)***MIMI闲话:大家注意下最后一段,说的是惊惊漫画和动画的出场讨论问题,好象惊惊真的是失踪了呢?***



玩具:***MIMI闲话:不用看了跟小红一样的,就是因为这个害人家小红自杀的……夷,等等,为什么会一样,难道说他们之间有隐情??比如惊惊给了力量小红?哦哦,无限YY!写进小说去~~~***


引用网页:http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Thundercracker_%28Armada%29#Armada_2
(这个是E还是A,不知道了:http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/5/5f/BTR_Armada_Thundercracker.jpg/105px-BTR_Armada_Thundercracker.jpg

迷你排挡:Zapmaster(翻译:打击者 Zap=打击、杀死、活力;master=控制,主,征服 )

介绍:
Zapmaster will attack just about anything head-on, no matter how big and overpowering it may be. "Fear" doesn't ever seem to register in his brain. He lived in the Wastelands of Cybertron for who-knows-how-long, which turned him into the vicious little bugger he is today.
(翻译:待翻译中……)

合体:无?
***MIMI闲话:跟诈骗一样的迷你?诈骗的兄弟?是不是翻译成打击呢?跟诈骗成队?
小片段:
A红:怎么我看起来象惊天雷??
诈骗:怎么我看起来象打击者??
呵呵
***

引用网页:http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Zapmaster


最后是我们有爱的小红,不用多介绍了吧??
红蜘蛛:***MIMI闲话:靠,这张图好美!!小红,我爱你!!!!!***


格言:Starscream's back, and he's a Linkin Park song.(小红回来了,他想加入LINKIN PARK……)***MIMI闲话:汗这个是介绍么???原来,小红也喜欢乐队挖,还跟偶一样喜欢LP~~~~***
11.24修改版:不好意思看错,经D兄指点改回来。
Starscream's back, and he's a Linkin Park song
翻译:就象LINKINPARK歌里唱的那样,红蜘蛛回来了。
(注释:LinKing Park 美国著名新金属乐队,就是唱真人电影主题歌What I've done的那个乐队,他们的歌多以真挚、曲折、矛盾和激情为主调,正像A里小红那样,遭到背叛、内心矛盾不已,充满了年轻人的强烈的感情。D兄感觉这里指代的是某首LP的歌,但是是哪首暂时有争议,个人就觉得是全部歌,但是,如果真有指代什么的话偶也会特别注意找找看,找到就贴出来给大家。)



介绍: (11.25更新翻译)
Starscream is disillusioned by his leader Megatron.
在威震天的手下红蜘蛛醒悟了。

It took a while for Starscream to come to grips with Megatron's faults, but there's no turning back.
红蜘蛛花了很长的时间(费劲地)和威震天的

Megatron doesn't respect him, doesn't appreciate him, and would casually toss Starscream's life away if it got him something he wanted.



If following Megatron is the school of hard knocks, then Starscream is the valedictorian -- but not without a few scars. Starscream may have once been compassionate, he may once have known what true friendship is, but all that has been replaced, scab for scab, with the lessons of Megatron's abuse.

Unwittingly, Megatron may have created a monster even he cannot ultimately control.

Starscream's nominal Mini-Con partner is Swindle, thought he has been seen to work with Zapmaster.

(翻译:待翻译中……)****MIMI闲话:果然,最后一段,2个小迷你是一起的呀~~好可爱~~~天~~~~***

超级多的介绍:
A动画里面的:



格言:He's grouchy because he's fangirl bait.(翻译:恋爱的诱惑使他郁郁寡欢……)
***MIMI废话:天,大家别杀我,上面是这么说的, grouchy=不高兴  fangirl =女孩子向的 bait=诱惑
否则、难道要我翻译“小红是女性向恋的正常孩子,所以,大家别拿他来BL…………?”(估计我这么翻会被杀…) ***

11.25修改:经飞鸟同学指点,fangirl =同人女
所以,
格言:He's grouchy because he's fangirl bait.(翻译应该是:他很郁闷,因为同人女老拿他作文章。)

介绍:***MIMI闲话:看来作者对小红还是很有爱的~***
Accompanying Megatron's forces to Earth, Starscream was deliberately made to be the last of the Decepticons to acquire a personal partner Mini-Con. Infuriated by this mistreatment, Starscream's resentment and hatred of Megatron made him a chink in the armor of the Decepticons that could be easily exploited by the manipulative Sideways.

Initially, Sideways coerced Starscream into a duel with Megatron, which he promptly lost. A short time later, Thrust, acting under the instructions Sideways, further exploited Starscream by making him the patsy in his latest plan. Starscream was given the Star Saber and allowed to run riot to draw the Autobots out of their base, but was then abandoned on the battlefield so that the other Decepticons could invade the base and steal the Requiem Blaster

Surviving to return to the Decepticon base, Starscream went on a rampage with the sword and disowned the Decepticons, siding up with the wary Autobots, not out of any desire to do good, but simply out of sheer hatred for Megatron. After a clash with Hot Shot and a trip to Mars with Jetfire, Starscream befriended the Autobots' human allies, particularly Alexis, and then gave the Autobots access to the Decepticon base, resulting in a raid that freed all the captive Mini-Cons. Starscream's defection was not a smooth process, however; he constantly clashed with his new teammates over morals and battle strategies, but nonetheless proved a capable, and on at least some level, willing Autobot.

Soon thereafter, Sideways and Thrust approached Starscream, planting seeds of doubt in his mind. This eventually caused him to steal the Skyboom shield from the Autobots and return to the Decepticon fold, giving the Decepticons possession of all three Mini-Con weapons.

As Megatron readied his new super weapon to attack Earth, Starscream began to suffer a serious moral crisis. He had returned to the decepticons but he still viewed those he'd left behind on Earth as his friends, and was torn between following orders, and a desire not to harm them. At times he found compromises, for instance, as Optimus led an attack to stop Megatron using the three minicon weapons, Starscream, currently battling Jetfire, spotted one of the decepticons sneaking up on Prime. Starscream then atacked Jetfire, allowing himself to be thrown away, and collided with the decepticon who would have attacked Prime.

Subsequently, Starscream was among the Transformers injured battling Nemesis Prime, and who then received "Powerlinx" power boosts from their Mini-Cons. Starscream gained a new, blue coloration that he commented made him look like his contemporary, Thundercracker, with disgust just dripping from his tone. Returning to Cybertron, Starscream pursued Thrust into the depths of the planet when the turncoat tactician revealed his treachery by stealing the Requiem Blaster and Skyboom shield. Starscream took a fatal shot from the Requiem Blaster as he battled Thrust in the subterranean tunnels, but the Mini-Con High Wire used his powers to restructure the timeline, saving Starscream (and throwing the human kids back in time, and.. well it's confusing).

Thrust escaped and delivered the weapons to Sideways and his master, Unicron, presently disguised as Cybertron's moon. Following Thrust through a warp gate and briefly reuniting with Alexis, Starscream entered the belly of the beast along with Hot Shot and Wheeljack, but the unlikely trio were stymied by Unicron's internal defenses and failed to stop Sideways from using the weapons to begin Unicron's reactivation.

Megatron - now Galvatron - was unwilling to acknowledge Unicron's threat, dismissing it as an Autobot trick, but Starscream knew the threat was real, and that only united under a true leader like Optimus Prime - whose strength of character and nobility had touched Starscream during his time with the Autobots - could the Transformers hope to stop him. To show Galvatron the error of his ways, he challenged him to a duel in which he allowed Galvatron to run him through with the Star Saber. Galavatron realized what happened and demanded to know what possessed Starscream to do such a thing.

Starscream told him that he tried to gain Galvatron's respect, but nothing was ever good enough, no matter how many battles he fought, his leader always found fault. Optimus Prime treated his men with respect, and was thus a leader of integrity, unlike Galvatron. But that didn't matter anymore, and after tearing the Star Saber out with his bare hands, Starscream turned his full firepower onto Unicron. The Chaos Bringer promptly obliterated him, to the shock of both Galvatron and Optimus Prime. When the dust settled, Galvatron stood reflecting upon Starscream's last words, and as a gesture, handed his enemy the Star Saber.

Unfortunately, Sideways ran off with it two seconds later. But it's the thought that counts.

(翻译:待翻译……)汗,这么多翻译能翻死人……

纪念小红:


The rest is... silence. Until he was brought back as a lobotomized, characterless zombie.
(他走了,剩下的是无声的空虚。直到他回来,带回的却是迟钝、平凡和古怪……)
***MIMI闲话:很显然,作者也很纠结E的安排呀***

接下来是E:

Ten years after Starscream's death, when Megatron seized control of Unicron's body by ousting its former occupant, the alien being Alpha Quintesson, the evicted extra-terrestrial needed an assassin to eliminate Megatron so that he could return to his original task of recreating the worlds destroyed by Unicron. Using what little energon he had left, Alpha Q recreated another victim of Unicron - Starscream. However, Alpha Q ran out of energon before the process could be completed, leaving Starscream incomplete - his memory blank, and his body unstable, constantly shifting from a physical to an ethereal form, able to teleport by "ghosting" from location to location. Megatron Raid

Alpha Q unleashed Starscream upon Ocean City, where he battled Optimus Prime and then tracked Megatron back to Unicron's body. Even his awesome new abilities proved no match for the Decepticon leader, who used Unicron's power to brainwash Starscream, turning him into his right-hand man and most loyal subordinate. Rather ironically, Megatron now treated Starscream with far more respect than previously, even entrusting him with some of the most difficult missions.

Later, when Megatron became Galvatron again through immersion in a subterranean reservoir of super energon on Cybertron, Starscream was allowed to do the same as a reward for his loyalty; the influx of power stabilized his physical form, while allowing him to retain his teleporting powers. When Galvatron was subsequently possessed by Unicron, Primus used the super energon to create a sun, and Galvatron plunged himself into it in order to contain Unicron's spark within it. Starscream seemingly sacrificed himself as well, diving into the sun alongside his leader.

(翻译:待翻译中……)***MIMI闲话:E老威对小红好了很多,多给了他更多的 respect,而最后,这里写,小红跟老威一起, sacrificed himself了……***

接下来是C……

不转也不翻了,我无自虐倾向,不想自杀!!!
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Starscream_%28Armada%29
大家拉下去自己看吧!下面甚至还有游戏!!!

更新游戏介绍翻译:(11.24)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Starscream was stationed in Antarctica, overseeing Decepticlone operations in recovering the Mini-Con storage panels found in the area, using a human research center they overran as his base of operations.
红蜘蛛驻扎在南极洲,负责寻找和监视这个区的迷你金刚,他的基地是一个废弃的人类监察站。

When the Autobots ventured too close, Starscream attacked (blowing up the hangar he was holed up in first), but was shot out of the sky and left for dead.
在汽车人冒险接近基地的时候,红蜘蛛发动了袭击(引爆他之前藏在仓库的武器),但被汽车人打飞、差点丧命。

Having survived his initial defeat, Starscream followed the Autobots to Alaska. There he collided his starship into a mountain in an attempt to crush them, but the Autobots escaped unscathed. This also gave them the chance to infiltrate the downed ship and free the captive Mini-Con Aftershock from the control room.
在第一场战斗中拣回小命的红蜘蛛追着汽车人到了阿拉斯加,在那里他驾驶飞船冲进雪山,试图压碎汽车人。但汽车人都毫发无损地生还了。红蜘蛛的行为反而给了汽车人潜入飞船控制室拯救被俘迷你金刚的机会。

Starscream used his null laser cannons at full power in an attempt to finish off his foes, but only succeeded in cutting the rock face below the ship, which collapsed and sent the precariously balanced ship plunging into the valley below. The impact of the crash buried the bow deep into the earth, forcing the Autobots to climb their way up and out to the surface.
红蜘蛛(对着飞船)开足火力发射他的氖射线加农炮,想干掉汽车人,但只打中了飞船下面的岩石,使飞船失去平衡坠落悬崖。冲力使船头深深埋入土中,迫使汽车人费了很大的劲才爬回地面。

When the Autobots pulled free from the buried ship and got back to ground-level, Starscream attacked again.
红蜘蛛在汽车人终于爬出坠毁飞船、回到地面的时候发动了攻击。

But this battle too ultimately ended in defeat, leading Optimus Prime to interrogate him as to the whereabouts of Megatron.
但是这场战以失败告终,让擎天柱有机会审问他威震天的下落。(致使擎天柱向他打听威震天的下落)

When Starscream refused and attempted to fire his functional null ray at point-blank range, Optimus knocked him unconscious with a well-aimed punch.
红蜘蛛在拒绝回答擎天柱的同时用氖射线加农炮瞄准了敌人,才准备近距离开枪,就被擎天柱准确的一拳打飞、失去了知觉。

He then ordered Red Alert to hack the treacherous Decepticon's warp transponder, which led them to Megatron's Pacific Island base.
擎天柱紧接着命令红色警报入侵他的通讯系统,从而得知威震天在太平洋岛屿的情报。
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
一些游戏视频:
(游戏情节也是很有爱的,小红也是背叛/受伤被救到了汽车人这边,最后跟OP打,OP劝他他不听,OP火了就把他直接打晕叫红色警报送打包回去给老威了,时间精力有限,以后细说)
↑11.24翻译后发现以上粗略看的结果完全是误会,汗…………

最后转2个图,好,OVER。
浴火凤凰:

打OP:

乐高玩具:


最后值得一提的是这个介绍把SEEKER小队归到了Maxcon (Mega)里, MAXCON是……混合金刚?求解~~~
是不是以前SEEKER是个战队类的东西呢?
MAXCON的第一个是Predacon,什么人?队长(但愿不是。)
引用网页:http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Predacon_%28Armada%29

~~暂时,END,MIMI已死,等复活回来翻译写A -SEEKER小队论文ING~~
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2楼占楼,继续找人物介绍官图ING:

中文翻译大图:
红蜘蛛
http://www.tfg2.com/read.php?tid=1152
惊天雷
http://www.tfg2.com/read.php?tid=1719
闹翻天
http://www.tfg2.com/read.php?tid=1716

1、红蜘蛛的人物图:
介绍(中文)

介绍(英文)

玩具人物图:



2、惊天雷的人物图:
介绍(中文)

介绍(英文)
暂缺
玩具人物图:
暂缺

3、闹翻天的人物图:
介绍(中文)

介绍(英文)

玩具人物图:
(还是缺5555……不过,偶会努力去找的了~~请大家支持~~~)
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只看该作者 2 发表于: 2007-11-23
披阅:未写开题报告,且用英文~打回重作~

图我现留下了~

要读懂这个贴~没点专4水平估计没戏(我是这辈子没戏了~)

MIMI难道是英语专业...............我被秒了..............看见英语就困.....
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只看该作者 3 发表于: 2007-11-23
贴出来就是为了慢慢翻译整理给大家看的,但大家知道我大4了忙找工作忙考公务员等等等等,所以,已经不象以前那么有时间了,所以,慢慢来~~


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只看该作者 4 发表于: 2007-11-24
闹翻天是怎么回事?
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只看该作者 5 发表于: 2007-11-24
我也不知道,需要找人物卡,传闻,(我只说传闻)他就是C漫画里那只喷气机……

个人理解应该是之前塞星战队的吧,惊天雷的资料里有写过红蜘蛛跟闹翻天都是惊天雷的徒弟……


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只看该作者 6 发表于: 2007-11-24
英文好长,看了眼花,先mark一下,回头再仔细研究。
ps:偶比较偏好惊天雷的性格,因为他是粗人一个,俺也是~~
俺就是传说中的光头怪叔叔……
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只看该作者 7 发表于: 2007-11-25
楼主好细心啊,连这些不为人知的资料都能找到,原来真是不知道A里面还有惊天雷和闹翻天的。
期待楼主的论文,加油啊
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只看该作者 8 发表于: 2007-11-25
fangirl 是同人女。

He's grouchy because he's fangirl bait.的意思是……他很郁闷,因为他是同人女的玩物。
If I must die, you'll die with me.

霸王龙这么说了
猩猩队长这么做了
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只看该作者 9 发表于: 2007-11-25
……呀,我这么翻译会不会被同人女杀呀…………


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只看该作者 10 发表于: 2007-11-26
http://blog.sina.com.cn/shajia1110
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只看该作者 11 发表于: 2007-11-26
呀,看到了看到了,谢谢四大金刚~~~~


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只看该作者 12 发表于: 2007-11-26
……支持…努力找A版闹翻天的玩具ing.................................
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只看该作者 13 发表于: 2007-11-26
楼主真高人!!!!!!!!!!
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只看该作者 14 发表于: 2007-11-26
更新的很快啊,终于看到中文翻译了,可是对于惊天雷的设定很是失望啊,怎么他也造反了呢??而且像个纯没有思想的机器一样。。唉!

闹翻天相对好一些。还真是有点弱智,汗一个。。。不过从设定上看他还是属于情感强烈的人,还好,如果智商低就能换回感情和思想的话,我宁可惊天雷比他还弱智一些,呵呵。

觉得A版和G1动画最大的不同在于虽然出场人物相对少,但是每个人都写得很细致,情感表达的很丰富。像红蜘蛛,因为这个数不清的fans都爱A红,因为他是个英雄,可是对于没有出场的其他两兄弟来说,这个官方设定可真是。。。。至少我不能接受——人家本身就没有出场,已经很委屈了,还给人家说成那样,真替他们不平啊。

最后,感谢楼主的辛勤劳动。
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